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Permalink Reply by Beth on February 9, 2012 at 19:25

Do you keep a food diary so could show them this and discuss your concerns?  I have my first dietician appointment end of march and be very interested to hear what they say now I've heard from mums on this board.

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Permalink Reply by kylie davidson on February 9, 2012 at 19:32

I started doing the diary again when I started food

Got peads in march to for her 2 month follow up appointment last seen in December

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Permalink Reply by Jenny Rawling on February 9, 2012 at 19:30

That doesn't seem to add up, Kylie. 28oz sounds like a fairly good milk intake, so I'm sure that would be enough calcium? I doubt there would be more in 28oz of the Nut2 anyway, and it may cause a reaction from the CMPI point of view.Maybe someone who has a tin of each handy can clarify?

We definitely had issues with "normal" bread initially with Matthew, though he is ok with it now. The written NHS information on CMPI and soya intolerance from the dietician did say all bread products were ok, but I clarified it and she said some babies will react to the soya flour. If yo've observed that soya flour is a problem then obviously you keep avoiding bread containing it. Tesco do a couple of soya-free loaves in their Finest farmhouse range.

It's so easy for people to say you need to do "XYZ" when it is not them up in the night. You need to consider the advice and where it came from (not entirely clear from your post what was the dietician and what the HV) but also weigh up what is working for you and Rylee.

Jen x

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Permalink Reply by kylie davidson on February 9, 2012 at 19:38

When she was having bread she would have a slice when the kids were having lunch and her sleep was increasingly worse to the point she was up about 20+ times a night

I know I thought she is taking more than she is ment to and isn't that hungry maybe because she is still being sick milk 3 hours after a bottle

The dietian has never seen Rylee the hv emailed her for her option as she wasn't under one

I was up a lot last night with her so might not make sense

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Permalink Reply by Jenny Rawling on February 9, 2012 at 19:44

I've tried to look up the amounts and can't find them easily, other than several mentions of a higher calcium comtent in Nut2 as opposed to Nut1. However, this is based on the baby taking less volume of formula and more solids, but if Rylee is still having plenty of formula I doubt she's calcium deficient. Why don't you contact Nutramigen and ask them for the calcium contents of the various formulas - there's a link to email them on their website.

Is she ok with soya free bread, or do you think you may have a problem with wheat?

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Permalink Reply by kylie davidson on February 9, 2012 at 19:52

I haven't be able to get a soya free bread will get bagels in the morning to try them there is no local Tesco nearest one is an hour on the bus

Will email them just now hopefully get a reply soon

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Permalink Reply by Jenny Rawling on February 9, 2012 at 19:55

Have you got a local bakery? The one on our high street makes it's own bread and it's all soya free, we used to buy a lot and freeze it.

Other things to try; part-bake bread is often soya free and most supermarkets stock that, bagels you've already mentioned, beg/borrow a bread-maker and make your own...

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Permalink Reply by kylie davidson on February 9, 2012 at 20:01

Will ask the local bakery I used to work there but not making the bread but I think they bay mixes now

Will have a look in the coop tomorrow morning fingers crossed I find something local

Thanks for your help have emailed nutramigim didn't think of that

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Permalink Reply by Laura McKechnie on February 9, 2012 at 21:10

Hi,

I've got a tin of both Nutramigen 2 and Neocate (so not Nut AA but will give you an idea)

Calcium content for Nut 2 is 638mg per 100g powder and calcium content for Neocate is 466mg per 100g.  If you look on the side of your tin of Nut AA it should give you the calcium content (about halfway down the list of ingredients).

Our paed tried to put us back onto Nut2 stating that it had more calories and was nutritionally better - so I remember doing a comparison of the two tins and finding little between it overall.  The risk of a reaction to nutramigen 2 isn't worth it in my opinion.x

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Permalink Reply by kylie davidson on February 10, 2012 at 8:47

The aa has 470 mgs per 100gs i will check how much she is ment to get in a day

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Permalink Reply by kylie davidson on February 10, 2012 at 10:28

She is ment to have 500mls -600mls a day and she is having 900 mls so well over

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Permalink Reply by Jenny Rawling on February 10, 2012 at 13:12

So hte Nut 2 is quite a lot higher in calcium. If you get to a stage where she drops her milk intake significantly then maybe you need to think about calcium intake. If you don't want to go to a hydrolysed formula the other option would be a calcium supplement if the dietician thinks her intake is inadequate. Since she is taking plenty formula at the moment I'm sure you don't need to worry. Jen x

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